Priest Says Hell is Fake, Relegion is all about control

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  • Mr J;you really hit on a good point about the dynamic between liberalism and fundamentalism in various religions even ,as you rightly state,the LHP.I live in the UK myself,so I can relate to what you say.I'd even go as far as to say the more fanatical elements of a religion actively persecute those of the same religion;particularly their more liberal,knowledgeable and esoteric practitioners;eg:Muslim Orthodoxy v Sufism.But yes,I agree liberalism can also be an effective cover for fundies.

    However,like Tau,my impression is that this guy may have a potentially Luciferian outlook.Maybe I'm just being naive?

  • It's also interesting to note that this minister is actually taking the advice of many skeptics who have said that Christianity should change and evolve, beyond old dead traditions of pistis and stiff tradition, or suffer the fate of failure and non-existence. This is interesting to see what appears to be somewhat of a very Gnostic approach re-surfacing in the public eye. 

  • I like this guy.

  • Spong the ding-dong is not really a Christian.  He calls Jehovah, the ground of being, a principle.  Quite liberal and I believe gay.  He's The Antichrist, lol!

  • Excellent research Toto, thanks!

  • hey guys hows it going i digged some dirt on this guy and heres the dirt -

    A per-eminent voice for liberal Christianity, John Shelby Spong was the Bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Newark for 24 years before his retirement in 2000. His admirers acclaim his making contemporary theology accessible to the ordinary lay person—he's considered a champion of an inclusive faith by many both inside and outside the Christian church. His challenges to the church have also made him a target of hostility, fear, and death threats. Calling himself "a joyful, passionate, convinced believer in the reality of God," he seeks not to create a new religion, but to reform the church he loves. Series: "Burke Lectureship on Religion & Society"

    -at least hes not vomiting shit in to peoples ears.

  • Presumably this is taken from some Christian TV show and the interviewer is a mainstream type Christian? I mean it would be one thing if they were good enough to grant a fringe type Christian some interview time on their TV network, to make things interesting and more balanced - it would be the kind of thing you'd expect him to say - but quite another if he was from a mainstream type church - a renegade or rogue if you like on the inside causing a big schism.

  • I was going to ask the same question myself. None of the multiple posts of this video on youtube bother to mention who he is and what denomination he is from. I suspect he is a type of Universalist, either Gnostic or Spiritualist in some capacity. I think that's important, to understand the context, as the video is presented (the excerpt and the title) as an authoritative Priest telling the interviewer how it really is, when in fact it's just his opinion - one of many! It may well be slightly more valid than say a Baptist priest's opinion but at the end of the day, who knows a damned thing. The sermon at the end is all very well but thin on specifics - which are kinda important in the Xtian umbrella.

  • Yeah!Sounds like a Luciferian in in the making to me.Astounding to hear a xian cleric apply such clear logic.

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